diff --git a/stand/forth/menu.4th b/stand/forth/menu.4th
index a336b9f9e7aa..75e75e3e3654 100644
--- a/stand/forth/menu.4th
+++ b/stand/forth/menu.4th
@@ -490,7 +490,11 @@ also menu-infrastructure definitions
 		menuX @ 19 + over 2 / - menuY @ 1-
 	then
 	swap 1- swap
-	at-xy space type space
+	at-xy dup 0= if
+		2drop ( empty loader_menu_title )
+	else
+		space type space
+	then
 
 	\ If $menu_init is set, evaluate it (allowing for whole menus to be
 	\ constructed dynamically -- as this function could conceivably set
diff --git a/stand/lua/drawer.lua b/stand/lua/drawer.lua
index 523735a75d06..6324c2262c11 100644
--- a/stand/lua/drawer.lua
+++ b/stand/lua/drawer.lua
@@ -286,7 +286,10 @@ local function drawbox()
 		menu_header_x = x + (w // 2) - (#menu_header // 2)
 	end
 	screen.setcursor(menu_header_x - 1, y)
-	printc(" " .. menu_header .. " ")
+	if menu_header ~= "" then
+		printc(" " .. menu_header .. " ")
+	end
+
 end
 
 local function drawbrand()