the command set (only so long as the module is present):
o add db_command_register and db_command_unregister to add and remove
commands, respectively
o replace linker sets with SYSINIT's (and SYSUINIT's) that register
commands
o expose 3 list heads: db_cmd_table, db_show_table, and db_show_all_table
for registering top-level commands, show operands, and show all operands,
respectively
While here also:
o sort command lists
o add DB_ALIAS, DB_SHOW_ALIAS, and DB_SHOW_ALL_ALIAS to add aliases
for existing commands
o add "show all trace" as an alias for "show alltrace"
o add "show all locks" as an alias for "show alllocks"
Submitted by: Guillaume Ballet <gballet@gmail.com> (original version)
Reviewed by: jhb
MFC after: 1 month
all the non-filter handlers attached to an interrupt event. This can be
used by device drivers which multiplex their interrupt onto the interrupt
handlers for child devices.
the free list and in this way avoid contention on the w_mtx.
In order to make the code simple, we rely on the rule that when the head
has not a child it also doesn't have other subsequent entries.
Actually this assertion is broken because we can free all the head
children and quit witness_unlock() with the head still allocated, with no
children and subsequent entries present.
Fix this by shifting the head if other entries are present and still
freeing the object, but leaving always an head.
- Fix witness_thread_has_locks() in order to report, correctly, if the
lock list linked to a specific thread has children or not based on the
above explained rule.
- Fix a printout into DDB's "show alllocks" command in order to show,
correctly, the process name that is really what we want.
- Fix style(9) for a comment.
Tested by: Giovanni Trematerra <giovanni dot trematerra at gmail dot com>
Reported by: Marko Kiiskila <marko dot kiiskila at nokia dot com>
Sponsored by: Nokia
ttydevsw_outwakeup(). This should fix panics which occur after remote
login sessions timeout during moderate TTY activity. An example of
where this might occur is where a pending write to the terminal is
occurring while sshd(8) is shutting down the TTY after a TCP timeout.
Submitted by: ed
of spurious witness warnings since lockmgr grew witness support. Before
this, every time you passed an interlock to a lockmgr lock WITNESS treated
it as a LOR.
Reviewed by: attilio
- Set UMA_ZONE_NOFREE so that the per-turnstile spin locks are type stable
to avoid a race where one thread might dereference a lock in a free'd
turnstile that was previously used by another thread.
Theorized by: tegge (2)
MFC after: 1 week
it had been assigned to the last sleeping thread. That thread might have
started running on another CPU and have reused that sleep queue. Fix it
by just walking the thread queue using TAILQ_FOREACH_SAFE() rather than
a while loop.
PR: amd64/124200
Discovered by: tegge
Tested by: benjsc
MFC after: 1 week
somehow.
As a consequence we may now get an unexpected result(*).
Catch that error cases with a well defined panic giving appropriate
pointers to ease debugging.
(*) While the concensus was that the case should never happen unless
there was a bug, noone was definitively sure.
Discussed with: kmacy (about 8 months back)
Reviewed by: silby (as part of a larger patch in March)
MFC after: 2 months
As discussed with Robert on IRC, checking the permissions on
/dev/console to see if we can call TIOCCONS could be unreliable. When we
run a chroot() without a devfs instance mounted inside, it won't
actually check the permissions on the device node inside the devfs
instance.
Using the already existing PRIV_TTY_CONSOLE for this seems like a better
idea.
Approved by: rwatson
As reported by several users on the mailing lists, applications like
screen(1) fail to properly handle ^S and ^Q characters. This was because
MPSAFE TTY didn't implement packet mode (TIOCPKT) yet. Add basic packet
mode support to make these applications work again.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/mpsafetty/...
When I migrated tty_compat.c to MPSAFE TTY, I just hooked it up to the
build and fixed it until it compiled and somewhat worked. It turns out
this was not the smartest thing, because the old TTY layer also had a
field called t_flags, which contained a set of sgtty flags.
This means our current COMPAT_43TTY code overwrites the TTY flags,
causing all strange problems to occur. Fix this code to use a new struct
member called t_compatflags. This commit may cause kern/127054 to be
fixed, but this still has to be tested/confirmed by the originator. It
has to be fixed anyway.
PR: kern/127054
The ttydisc_getc() routine obtains a read length from ttyoutq_read().
For no valid reason, the current code stores this value in an int, and
returns a size_t. There is no need to perform this useless conversion.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/mpsafetty/...
lock tracking and checks, doing just the former ones.
- Fix a bug where sysctl utility was printing crazy values when setting a
new value for debug.witness.watch [0]
[0] Reported by: yongari
- In the current design, when a TTY decreases its baud rate, it tries to
shrink the queues. This may not always be possible, because it will
not free any blocks that are still filled with data.
Change the TTY queues to store a `quota' value as well, which means it
will not free any blocks when changing the baud rate, but when placing
blocks back into the queue. When the amount of blocks exceeds the
quota, they get freed.
It also fixes some edge cases, where TIOCSETA during read()/
write()-calls could actually make the queue a tiny bit bigger than in
normal cases.
- Don't leak blocks of memory when calling TIOCSETA when the device
driver abandons the TTY while allocating memory.
- Create ttyoutq_init() and ttyinq_init() to initialize the queues,
instead of initializing them by hand. The new TTY snoop driver also
creates an outq, so it's good to have a proper interface to do this.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/mpsafetty/...
1 means that witness is up and running.
0 means that witness is disabled but that it can be established later
again in effective way.
-1 means that witness is disabled permanently
- Fix a bug causing kernel to panic on witness disabling through
witness_watch. lock lists queues were still full of entries and this was
causing throubles with debugging stubs (like witness_thread_exit()).
Reported by: kris, yongari
Sponsored by: Nokia
- Implement IMAXBEL. It turned out the IMAXBEL termios switch was marked
as supported, while it had not been implemented.
- Don't go into the high watermark when in canonical mode, no data has
been canonicalized and the input buffer is full. This caused the
terminal to lock up. This prevented users from pressing
backspace/^U/etc in such cases.
This could easily be simulated by pasting a very big amount of data in
a shell with sh(1) in canonical mode.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/mpsafetty/...
A couple of months ago I was quite impressed, because when I was writing
code, I discovered that uiomove() would not allow any locks to be held,
while ureadc() did, mainly because ureadc() is implemented using the
same building blocks as uiomove().
Let's see if this triggers any aditional witness warnings on our source
tree.
Reviewed by: atillio
to ignore the unmounting and forces insertion of the vnode into the mount
vnode list.
Change insmntque() to fail when forced unmount is in progress and
VV_FORCEINSMQ is not specified.
Add an assertion to the insmntque(), requiring the vnode to be
exclusively locked for mp-safe filesystems.
Use the VV_FORCEINSMQ for the creation of the syncvnode.
Tested by: pho
Reviewed by: tegge
MFC after: 1 month
For some reason a return-statement crept into this code, where it
shouldn't belong. This means we didn't properly unlock the TTY before
returning to userspace.
Submitted by: Tor Egge <tor egge cvsup no freebsd org>
doing it on every CPU.
- Use CPU_ABSENT() rather than pcpu_find() to determine if a CPU is not
present.
- Count up to mp_maxid rather than MAXCPU when iterating over CPUs to
match the rest of the code in the kernel.
MFC after: 1 week
is returned shall be kept in the waitable state.
Add WSTOPPED as an alias for WUNTRACED.
Submitted by: Jukka Ukkonen <jau at iki fi>
PR: standards/116221
MFC after: 2 weeks
executed by fexecve(2), imgp->args->fname is NULL. Moreover, there is
no way to recover the path to the script being executed.
Do what some other U*ixes do unconditionally, namely supply /dev/fd/n
as the script path when called from fexecve(). Document requirement of
having fdescfs mounted as caveat.
allocated for posix_openpt(2). Unfortunately, that identifier
conflicts with other events already allocated to other systems in
OpenBSM. Assign a new globally unique identifier and conform
better to the AUE_ event naming scheme.
This is a stopgap until a new OpenBSM import is done with the
correct identifier, so we'll maintain this as a local diff in svn
until then.
Discussed with: ed
Obtained from: TrustedBSD Project
have NULL mount-points. This is the case for special vnodes, such as the
one used in nameiinit() which is used for crossing mount points in lookup()
to avoid lock ordering issues.
MFC after: 2 weeks
Discussed with: rwatson, kib
The pty(4) driver raises up to warnings when an old BSD-style PTY is
created. The reason why I added this warning, was to make it easier to
spot applications that allocate BSD-style PTY's, while they should just
use openpty() or posix_openpt().
Add a sysctl, which allows you to override the number of remaining
messages, making it possible to suppress the warnings.
Requested by: kib
Reviewed by: kib
(1) Abstract interpreter vnode labeling in execve(2) and mac_execve(2)
so that the general exec code isn't aware of the details of
allocating, copying, and freeing labels, rather, simply passes in
a void pointer to start and stop functions that will be used by
the framework. This change will be MFC'd.
(2) Introduce a new flags field to the MAC_POLICY_SET(9) interface
allowing policies to declare which types of objects require label
allocation, initialization, and destruction, and define a set of
flags covering various supported object types (MPC_OBJECT_PROC,
MPC_OBJECT_VNODE, MPC_OBJECT_INPCB, ...). This change reduces the
overhead of compiling the MAC Framework into the kernel if policies
aren't loaded, or if policies require labels on only a small number
or even no object types. Each time a policy is loaded or unloaded,
we recalculate a mask of labeled object types across all policies
present in the system. Eliminate MAC_ALWAYS_LABEL_MBUF option as it
is no longer required.
MFC after: 1 week ((1) only)
Reviewed by: csjp
Obtained from: TrustedBSD Project
Sponsored by: Apple, Inc.
not in the namecache when shared lookups are enabled (vfs.lookup_shared=1,
it is currently off by default) and the filesystem supports shared lookups
(e.g. NFS client). Specifically, if multiple concurrent LOOKUPs both miss
in the name cache in parallel, each of the lookups may each end up adding an
entry to the namecache resulting in duplicate entries in the namecache
for the same pathname. A subsequent removal of the mapping of that
pathname to that vnode (via remove or rename) would only evict one of the
entries from the name cache. As a result, subseqent lookups for that
pathname would still return the old vnode.
This race was observed with shared lookups over NFS where a file was updated
by writing a new file out to a temporary file name and then renaming that
temporary file to the "real" file to effect atomic updates of a file. Other
processes on the same client that were periodically reading the file would
occasionally receive an ESTALE error from open(2) because the VOP_GETATTR()
in nfs_open() would receive that error when given the stale vnode.
The fix here is to check for duplicates in cache_enter() and just return
if an entry for this same directory and leaf file name for this vnode is
already in the cache. The check for duplicates is done by walking the
per-vnode list of name cache entries. It is expected that this list should
be very small in the common case (usually 0 or 1 entries during a
cache_enter() since most files only have 1 "leaf" name).
Reviewed by: ups, scottl
MFC after: 2 months
When my earlier MPSAFE TTY prototypes still implemented line
disciplines, we needed a mechanism to abort read()'s on PTY master
devices when inside the line discipline. Because this is no longer the
case, these checks have become unneeded.
set the MNT_FORCE flag, but do not persist "force"
in the options list, since it is a command, not a persistent property
of a mount.
Similarly, when we see "reload", set MNT_RELOAD,
but delete "reload" from the options list.
MFC after: 1 week
- According to POSIX, tcsetattr() must not fail when any of the bits in
the structure are unsupported, but it must leave the unsupported flags
alone.
- The CIGNORE flag (set by TCSASOFT, extension) was not cleared from
c_cflag, which means using it would cause it to be applied during its
entire lifespan. Eventually make sure we clear the flag.
I don't really like CIGNORE, but I think we must keep it alive right
now. With our new TTY layer, we don't actually need this mechanism,
because if you leave c_cflag, c_ispeed and c_ospeed alone, we won't make
a call into the device driver anyway.
Reported by: naddy
Tested by: naddy
thread_unsuspend_one() needs to optionally wakeup the swapper. Since we
hold the thread lock for that entire function, however, we have to push
that requirement up into the caller.
Found by: rwatson
Unlike pre-MPSAFE TTY, the pts(4) driver always returned ENXIO when a
read() or write() was performed on a pseudo-terminal master device when
the slave device was not opened. The old implementation had different
semantics:
- When the slave device had not been opened yet, read() and write() just
blocked.
- When the slave device had been closed, a read() call would return 0
bytes length.
- When the slave device had been closed, a write() call would return
EIO.
Change the new implementation to return 0 and EIO as well. We don't
implement the first rule, but I suspect this is not needed, because
routines like openpty() also open the slave device node. posix_openpt()
users also do similar things.
Reported by: rink
Tested by: rink
It turned out we transmitted VSTART after each successful read on a TTY
when software flow control was turned on. This was because of a very
evil bug where we tested the TF_HIWAT_IN flag the other way around.
Reported by: Christian Weisgerber <naddy mips inka de>
During the import of the MPSAFE TTY layer (r181905), I changed
acct_process() to lock proctree_lock instead of SESS_LOCK, because
s_ttyp is now locked using proctree_lock. One of the things I forgot,
was to lock it before we PROC_LOCK.
Commit this patch, written by kib@. To ensure we hold proctree_lock as
short as possible, obtaining `ac_tty' has now been made the first step
of filling `acct'.
Reported by: Kevin <kevinxlinuz 163 com>
Solved by: kib
We used to have a single wait channel inside the kernel which could be
used by threads that just wanted to sleep for some time (the next
second). The old TTY layer was the only piece of code that still used
lbolt, because I already removed the use of lbolt from the NFS clients
and the VFS syncer.
Approved by: philip
The previous commit also included changes to all the system call lists,
but it is a tradition to update these lists in a second commit, so rerun
make sysent to update the $FreeBSD$ tags inside these files to refer to
the latest version of syscalls.master.
Requested by: rwatson
The last half year I've been working on a replacement TTY layer for the
FreeBSD kernel. The new TTY layer was designed to improve the following:
- Improved driver model:
The old TTY layer has a driver model that is not abstract enough to
make it friendly to use. A good example is the output path, where the
device drivers directly access the output buffers. This means that an
in-kernel PPP implementation must always convert network buffers into
TTY buffers.
If a PPP implementation would be built on top of the new TTY layer
(still needs a hooks layer, though), it would allow the PPP
implementation to directly hand the data to the TTY driver.
- Improved hotplugging:
With the old TTY layer, it isn't entirely safe to destroy TTY's from
the system. This implementation has a two-step destructing design,
where the driver first abandons the TTY. After all threads have left
the TTY, the TTY layer calls a routine in the driver, which can be
used to free resources (unit numbers, etc).
The pts(4) driver also implements this feature, which means
posix_openpt() will now return PTY's that are created on the fly.
- Improved performance:
One of the major improvements is the per-TTY mutex, which is expected
to improve scalability when compared to the old Giant locking.
Another change is the unbuffered copying to userspace, which is both
used on TTY device nodes and PTY masters.
Upgrading should be quite straightforward. Unlike previous versions,
existing kernel configuration files do not need to be changed, except
when they reference device drivers that are listed in UPDATING.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/mpsafetty/...
Approved by: philip (ex-mentor)
Discussed: on the lists, at BSDCan, at the DevSummit
Sponsored by: Snow B.V., the Netherlands
dcons(4) fixed by: kan
virtualization work done by Marko Zec (zec@).
This is the first in a series of commits over the course
of the next few weeks.
Mark all uses of global variables to be virtualized
with a V_ prefix.
Use macros to map them back to their global names for
now, so this is a NOP change only.
We hope to have caught at least 85-90% of what is needed
so we do not invalidate a lot of outstanding patches again.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/vimage-commit2/...
Reviewed by: brooks, des, ed, mav, julian,
jamie, kris, rwatson, zec, ...
(various people I forgot, different versions)
md5 (with a bit of help)
Sponsored by: NLnet Foundation, The FreeBSD Foundation
X-MFC after: never
V_Commit_Message_Reviewed_By: more people than the patch
- Speedup the lock orderings lookup modifying the witness graph from a
linked tree to a matrix. A table lookup caches the lock orderings in
order to make a O(1) access for them. Any witness object has an unique
index withing this lookup cache table.
- Reduce the lock contention on w_mtx acquiring it only when the LOR
actually happens and not in a sane case. In order to do this don't totally
flush lock lists (per-CPU spinlocks list and per-thread sleeplocks list)
but check for ll_count anytime we need to have to verify allocations sanity.
- Introduce the function witness_thread_exit() in the witness namespace which
should verify a thread doesn't hold any witness occurrence why exiting.
- Rename the sysctl debug.witness.graphs into debug.witness.fullgraph and
add debug.witness.badstacks which prints out stacks for LOR revealed.
This is implemented using the stack(9) support, which makes WITNESS to be
dependent by the STACK option or by the DDB (including STACK) option.
- Fix style(9) for src/sys/kern/subr_witness.c
The hash table approach has been developed by Ilya Maykov on the behalf of
Isilon Systems which kindly released the patch.
Jeff Roberson, ported the patch to -CURRENT and fixed w_mtx contention, on the
behalf of Nokia.
Submitted by: Ilya Maykov <ivmaykov at gmail dot com> (Isilon Systems), jeff
Sponsored by: Nokia
the various copyouts associated with initializing the process's
argv/env data in userspace. It is possible that these copyout
operations can fault under memory pressure, possibly resulting
in dead locks. This is believed to be safe since none of the
copyout_strings() operations need to interact with the vnode here.
Submitted by: Zhouyi Zhou
PR: kern/111260
Discussed with: kib
MFC after: 3 weeks
There is no reason the fdopen() routine needs Giant. It only sets
curthread->td_dupfd, based on the device unit number of the cdev.
I guess we won't get massive performance improvements here, but still, I
assume we eventually want to get rid of Giant.
msleep/mtx_sleep or the various cv_*wait*() routines. Currently, the
"unlock" behavior of PDROP and cv_wait_unlock() with Giant is not
permitted as it is will be confusing since Giant is fully unrecursed and
unlocked during a thread sleep.
This is handy for subsystems which wish to allow unlocked drivers to
continue to use Giant such as CAM, the new TTY layer, and the new USB
stack. CAM currently uses a hack that I told Scott to use because I
really didn't want to permit this behavior, and the TTY and USB patches
both have various patches to permit this.
MFC after: 2 weeks
routine wakes up proc0 so that proc0 can swap the thread back in.
Historically, this has been done by waking up proc0 directly from
setrunnable() itself via a wakeup(). When waking up a sleeping thread
that was swapped out (the usual case when waking proc0 since only sleeping
threads are eligible to be swapped out), this resulted in a bit of
recursion (e.g. wakeup() -> setrunnable() -> wakeup()).
With sleep queues having separate locks in 6.x and later, this caused a
spin lock LOR (sleepq lock -> sched_lock/thread lock -> sleepq lock).
An attempt was made to fix this in 7.0 by making the proc0 wakeup use
the ithread mechanism for doing the wakeup. However, this required
grabbing proc0's thread lock to perform the wakeup. If proc0 was asleep
elsewhere in the kernel (e.g. waiting for disk I/O), then this degenerated
into the same LOR since the thread lock would be some other sleepq lock.
Fix this by deferring the wakeup of the swapper until after the sleepq
lock held by the upper layer has been locked. The setrunnable() routine
now returns a boolean value to indicate whether or not proc0 needs to be
woken up. The end result is that consumers of the sleepq API such as
*sleep/wakeup, condition variables, sx locks, and lockmgr, have to wakeup
proc0 if they get a non-zero return value from sleepq_abort(),
sleepq_broadcast(), or sleepq_signal().
Discussed with: jeff
Glanced at by: sam
Tested by: Jurgen Weber jurgen - ish com au
MFC after: 2 weeks
lstat(2) is called on symlinks -- this code appears never to have
worked. The PR this addresses suggests that the intended
original behavior is the right one, but as bde points out in the
PR comments, we do actually support storing a mode on symlinks,
so returning it seems reasonable.
This is consistent with Mac OS X, which despite documentation to
the contrary does return the mode set on a symlink, but not some
other platforms. The Single Unix Spec requires only that the
returned bits be "meaningful", which seems at best unhelpful as
advice goes.
PR: 25018
MFC after: 3 days
vnode lock may cause a LOR between kld_sx lock and vnode lock.
linker_load_dependencies() drops kld_sx, and another thread may attempt
to load the same kld.
Reported and tested by: pjd
MFC after: 1 week
processes are not producing absolute pathname tokens. It is required
that audited pathnames are generated relative to the global root mount
point. This modification changes our implementation of audit_canon_path(9)
and introduces a new function: vn_fullpath_global(9) which performs a
vnode -> pathname translation relative to the global mount point based
on the contents of the name cache. Much like vn_fullpath,
vn_fullpath_global is a wrapper function which called vn_fullpath1.
Further, the string parsing routines have been converted to use the
sbuf(9) framework. This change also removes the conditional acquisition
of Giant, since the vn_fullpath1 method will not dip into file system
dependent code.
The vnode locking was modified to use vhold()/vdrop() instead the vref()
and vrele(). This will modify the hold count instead of modifying the
user count. This makes more sense since it's the kernel that requires
the reference to the vnode. This also makes sure that the vnode does not
get recycled we hold the reference to it. [1]
Discussed with: rwatson
Reviewed by: kib [1]
MFC after: 2 weeks
It seems we only use `lbolt' inside the VFS syncer and the TTY layer
now. Because I'm planning to replace the TTY layer next month, there's
no reason to keep `lbolt' if it's only used in a single thread inside
the kernel.
Because the syncer code wanted to wake up the syncer thread before the
timeout, it called sleepq_remove(). Because we now just use a condvar(9)
with a timeout value of `hz', we can wake it up using cv_broadcast()
without waking up any unrelated threads.
Reviewed by: phk
After the import of the new TTY layer, the TTY_QUOTE definition will not
be present anymore. To make sure clists will still work as expected,
introduce an internal definition called QUOTEMASK.
Maybe we can decide to remove the quote bits entirely, but we still have
to look into this. There may be drivers that still use the quote bits.
Obtained from: //depot/projects/mpsafetty
- When a cpuset is applied to a thread, walk the cpuset to see if it is a
"full" cpuset (includes all available CPUs). If not, set a new
TDS_AFFINITY flag to indicate that this thread can't run on all CPUs.
When inheriting a cpuset from another thread during thread creation, the
new thread also inherits this flag. It is in a new ts_flags field in
td_sched rather than using one of the TDF_SCHEDx flags because fork()
clears td_flags after invoking sched_fork().
- When placing a thread on a runqueue via sched_add(), if the thread is not
pinned or bound but has the TDS_AFFINITY flag set, then invoke a new
routine (sched_pickcpu()) to pick a CPU for the thread to run on next.
sched_pickcpu() walks the cpuset and picks the CPU with the shortest
per-CPU runqueue length. Note that the reason for the TDS_AFFINITY flag
is to avoid having to walk the cpuset and examine runq lengths in the
common case.
- To avoid walking the per-CPU runqueues in sched_pickcpu(), add an array
of counters to hold the length of the per-CPU runqueues and update them
when adding and removing threads to per-CPU runqueues.
MFC after: 2 weeks
- Check if panicstr isn't set, if it is ignore the lock. This helps to avoid
confusion, because lockmgr is a no-op when panicstr isn't NULL, so
asserting anything at this point doesn't make sense and can just race with
other panic.
Discussed with: kib
The ttyinfo() routine generates the fancy output when pressing ^T. Right
now it is stored in tty.c. In the MPSAFE TTY code it is already stored
in tty_info.c. To make integration of the MPSAFE TTY code a little
easier, take the same approach.
This makes the TTY code a little bit more readable, because having the
proc_*/thread_* routines in tty.c is very distractful.
Approved by: philip (mentor)
child process immediately after bulk bcopy() without dropping the
process lock.
Since process is not single-threaded when forking, dropping and
reacquiring the lock allows an other thread to change the process title
of the parent in between, and results in hold being done on the invalid
pointer. The problem manifested itself as the double free of the old
p_args.
Reported by: kris
Reviewed by: jhb
MFC after: 1 week
and there is no need to maintain it.
- Fix vn_get() in order to let it call vget(9) with a valid locking
request. vget(9) returns the vnode locked in order to prevent recycling,
but in this case internal XFS locks alredy prevent it from happening, so
it is safe to drop the vnode lock before to return by vn_get().
- Add a VNASSERT() in vget(9) in order to catch malformed locking requests.
Discussed with: kan, kib
Tested by: Lothar Braun <lothar at lobraun dot de>
interrupt-driven configuration handlers to complete, print out a
diagnostic message every 60 second indicating which handlers are
still running. Do this at most 5 times per run so as to avoid
scrolling out any useful information from the kernel message
buffer.
The interval of 60 seconds was selected based on a best guess as
to the nature of "long enough" and may want to be tuned higher
or lower depending on real-world tolerances.
MFC after: 3 days
Discussed with: scottl